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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 5:02:42 GMT
If someone tells me that I benefited from a racist land grant after hitching a covered wagon with oxen and traveled the Oregon Trail, I just keep walking and do not stare. Yes,they are the odd ones out.More to be pitied then anything. It is you who is to be pitied. You live in a lie when you don't have to. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 5:05:15 GMT
A game based on real history. No that's not reeal history. It's white half-story. Here is real history. Sec. 4. And be it further enacted, That there shall be, and hereby is, granted to every white settler or occupant of the public lands, American half-breed Indians included, above the age of eighteen years, being a citizen of the United States, or having made a declaration according to law, of his intention to become a citizen, or who shall make such declaration on or before the first day of December, eighteen hundred and fifty, and who shall have resided upon and cultivated the same for four consecutive years, and shall otherwise conform to the provisions of this act, the quantity of one half section, or three hundred and twenty acres of land, if a single man, and if a married man, or if he shall become married within one year from the first day of December, eighteen hundred and fifty, the quantity of one section, or six hundred and forty acres, one half to himself and the other half to his wife, and enter the same on the records of his office; and in all cases where such married persons have compiled with the provisions of this act, so as to entitle them to the grant as above provided, whether under the late provisional government of Oregon, or since, and either shall have died before patent issues, the survivor and children or heirs of the deceased shall be entitled to the share or interest of the decreased in equal proportions, except where the deceased shall otherwise dispose of it by testament duly and properly executed according to the laws of Oregon: Provided, That no alien shall be entitled to a patent to land, granted by this act, until he shall produce to the surveyor-general of Oregon, record evidence of his naturalization as a citizen of the United States has been completed; but if any alien, having made his declaration of intention to become a citizen of the United States, after the passage of this act, shall die before his naturalization shall be completed, the possessory right acquired by him under the provisions of this act shall descend to his heirs at law, or pass to his devisees, to whom, as the case may be, the patent shall issue: Provided, further, That in all cases provided for in this section, the donation shall embrace the land actually occupied and cultivated by the settler thereon: Provided, further, That all future contracts by any person or persons entitled to the benefits of this act, for the sale of the land to which he or they may be entitled under this act before he or they have received a patent therefor, shall be void: Provided, further, however, That this section shall not be so construed as to allow those claiming rights under the treaty with Great Britain relative to the Oregon Territory, to claim both under this grant and the treaty, but merely to secure them the election, and confine them to a single grant of land. Sec. 5. And be it further enacted, That to all white male citizens of the United States or persons who shall have made a declaration of intention to become such, above the age of twenty-one years, emigrating to and settling in said Territory between the first day of December, eighteen hundred and fifty, and the first day of December, eighteen hundred and fifty-three; and to all white male citizens, not hereinbefore provided for, becoming one and twenty years of age, in said Territory, and settling there between the times last aforesaid, who shall in other respects comply with the foregoing section and the provisions of this law, there shall be, and hereby is, granted the quantity of one quarter section, or one hundred and sixty acres of land, if a single man; or if married, or if he shall become married within one year after becoming twenty-one years of age as aforesaid, the quantity of one half section, or three hundred and twenty acres, one half to the husband and the other half to the wife in her own right, to be designated by the surveyor-general as aforesaid: Provided always, That no person shall ever receive a patent for more than one donation of land in said Territory in his or her own right: Provided, That no mineral lands shall be located or granted under the provisions of this act. The Donation Land Claim Act (1850)So you just walk on son, because you aren't man enough to face the truth. Now tell me how that was 1850 and we live in 2021 so you can dodge the fact that you are the one who bought up history and dared to allude that things said had nothing to do with real history. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 8:17:53 GMT
A game based on real history. No that's not reeal history. It's white half-story. Here is real history. Sec. 4. And be it further enacted, That there shall be, and hereby is, granted to every white settler or occupant of the public lands, American half-breed Indians included, above the age of eighteen years, being a citizen of the United States, or having made a declaration according to law, of his intention to become a citizen, or who shall make such declaration on or before the first day of December, eighteen hundred and fifty, and who shall have resided upon and cultivated the same for four consecutive years, and shall otherwise conform to the provisions of this act, the quantity of one half section, or three hundred and twenty acres of land, if a single man, and if a married man, or if he shall become married within one year from the first day of December, eighteen hundred and fifty, the quantity of one section, or six hundred and forty acres, one half to himself and the other half to his wife, and enter the same on the records of his office; and in all cases where such married persons have compiled with the provisions of this act, so as to entitle them to the grant as above provided, whether under the late provisional government of Oregon, or since, and either shall have died before patent issues, the survivor and children or heirs of the deceased shall be entitled to the share or interest of the decreased in equal proportions, except where the deceased shall otherwise dispose of it by testament duly and properly executed according to the laws of Oregon: Provided, That no alien shall be entitled to a patent to land, granted by this act, until he shall produce to the surveyor-general of Oregon, record evidence of his naturalization as a citizen of the United States has been completed; but if any alien, having made his declaration of intention to become a citizen of the United States, after the passage of this act, shall die before his naturalization shall be completed, the possessory right acquired by him under the provisions of this act shall descend to his heirs at law, or pass to his devisees, to whom, as the case may be, the patent shall issue: Provided, further, That in all cases provided for in this section, the donation shall embrace the land actually occupied and cultivated by the settler thereon: Provided, further, That all future contracts by any person or persons entitled to the benefits of this act, for the sale of the land to which he or they may be entitled under this act before he or they have received a patent therefor, shall be void: Provided, further, however, That this section shall not be so construed as to allow those claiming rights under the treaty with Great Britain relative to the Oregon Territory, to claim both under this grant and the treaty, but merely to secure them the election, and confine them to a single grant of land. Sec. 5. And be it further enacted, That to all white male citizens of the United States or persons who shall have made a declaration of intention to become such, above the age of twenty-one years, emigrating to and settling in said Territory between the first day of December, eighteen hundred and fifty, and the first day of December, eighteen hundred and fifty-three; and to all white male citizens, not hereinbefore provided for, becoming one and twenty years of age, in said Territory, and settling there between the times last aforesaid, who shall in other respects comply with the foregoing section and the provisions of this law, there shall be, and hereby is, granted the quantity of one quarter section, or one hundred and sixty acres of land, if a single man; or if married, or if he shall become married within one year after becoming twenty-one years of age as aforesaid, the quantity of one half section, or three hundred and twenty acres, one half to the husband and the other half to the wife in her own right, to be designated by the surveyor-general as aforesaid: Provided always, That no person shall ever receive a patent for more than one donation of land in said Territory in his or her own right: Provided, That no mineral lands shall be located or granted under the provisions of this act. The Donation Land Claim Act (1850)So you just walk on son, because you aren't man enough to face the truth. I am not sure why you end your post with a condescending remark when nothing that you said contradicts anything that I said. It only adds more to the story. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 8:21:25 GMT
If someone tells me that I benefited from a racist land grant after hitching a covered wagon with oxen and traveled the Oregon Trail, I just keep walking and do not stare. And you walk away from the truth that blacks were not alloed the same chance to hitch that wagon to travel. Real history junior. Seems that you choose to ignore part of it. I never said that was not the case. I am not convinced that my life today has benefited from handouts given during western expansion. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 9:10:30 GMT
No that's not reeal history. It's white half-story. Here is real history. Sec. 4. And be it further enacted, That there shall be, and hereby is, granted to every white settler or occupant of the public lands, American half-breed Indians included, above the age of eighteen years, being a citizen of the United States, or having made a declaration according to law, of his intention to become a citizen, or who shall make such declaration on or before the first day of December, eighteen hundred and fifty, and who shall have resided upon and cultivated the same for four consecutive years, and shall otherwise conform to the provisions of this act, the quantity of one half section, or three hundred and twenty acres of land, if a single man, and if a married man, or if he shall become married within one year from the first day of December, eighteen hundred and fifty, the quantity of one section, or six hundred and forty acres, one half to himself and the other half to his wife, and enter the same on the records of his office; and in all cases where such married persons have compiled with the provisions of this act, so as to entitle them to the grant as above provided, whether under the late provisional government of Oregon, or since, and either shall have died before patent issues, the survivor and children or heirs of the deceased shall be entitled to the share or interest of the decreased in equal proportions, except where the deceased shall otherwise dispose of it by testament duly and properly executed according to the laws of Oregon: Provided, That no alien shall be entitled to a patent to land, granted by this act, until he shall produce to the surveyor-general of Oregon, record evidence of his naturalization as a citizen of the United States has been completed; but if any alien, having made his declaration of intention to become a citizen of the United States, after the passage of this act, shall die before his naturalization shall be completed, the possessory right acquired by him under the provisions of this act shall descend to his heirs at law, or pass to his devisees, to whom, as the case may be, the patent shall issue: Provided, further, That in all cases provided for in this section, the donation shall embrace the land actually occupied and cultivated by the settler thereon: Provided, further, That all future contracts by any person or persons entitled to the benefits of this act, for the sale of the land to which he or they may be entitled under this act before he or they have received a patent therefor, shall be void: Provided, further, however, That this section shall not be so construed as to allow those claiming rights under the treaty with Great Britain relative to the Oregon Territory, to claim both under this grant and the treaty, but merely to secure them the election, and confine them to a single grant of land. Sec. 5. And be it further enacted, That to all white male citizens of the United States or persons who shall have made a declaration of intention to become such, above the age of twenty-one years, emigrating to and settling in said Territory between the first day of December, eighteen hundred and fifty, and the first day of December, eighteen hundred and fifty-three; and to all white male citizens, not hereinbefore provided for, becoming one and twenty years of age, in said Territory, and settling there between the times last aforesaid, who shall in other respects comply with the foregoing section and the provisions of this law, there shall be, and hereby is, granted the quantity of one quarter section, or one hundred and sixty acres of land, if a single man; or if married, or if he shall become married within one year after becoming twenty-one years of age as aforesaid, the quantity of one half section, or three hundred and twenty acres, one half to the husband and the other half to the wife in her own right, to be designated by the surveyor-general as aforesaid: Provided always, That no person shall ever receive a patent for more than one donation of land in said Territory in his or her own right: Provided, That no mineral lands shall be located or granted under the provisions of this act. The Donation Land Claim Act (1850)So you just walk on son, because you aren't man enough to face the truth. I am not sure why you end your post with a condescending remark when nothing that you said contradicts anything that I said. It only adds more to the story. What you said was that the conclusion that whites today benefitted from being given such things is not based on real history. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 9:14:36 GMT
And you walk away from the truth that blacks were not alloed the same chance to hitch that wagon to travel. Real history junior. Seems that you choose to ignore part of it. I never said that was not the case. I am not convinced that my life today has benefited from handouts given during western expansion. It's funny how people can selectively determine which parts of the past were beneficial. Look this up and read it please. You will have to download the pdf file. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-building Policy in American History by Trina Williams |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 12:17:52 GMT
I am not sure why you end your post with a condescending remark when nothing that you said contradicts anything that I said. It only adds more to the story. What you said was that the conclusion that whites today benefitted from being given such things is not based on real history. You are going to have to quote that statement. I made a reference to the Oregon Trail. Your comrade said it was a game and I said it was a game based on real history. For some reason that triggered you. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 12:21:10 GMT
I never said that was not the case. I am not convinced that my life today has benefited from handouts given during western expansion. It's funny how people can selectively determine which parts of the past were beneficial. Look this up and read it please. You will have to download the pdf file. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-building Policy in American History by Trina Williams You are still going to have to show how these racist policies of the past made me privileged enough to grow up in a majority black neighborhood. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 12:27:35 GMT
What you said was that the conclusion that whites today benefitted from being given such things is not based on real history. You are going to have to quote that statement. I made a reference to the Oregon Trail. Your comrade said it was a game and I said it was a game based on real history. For some reason that triggered you. If someone tells me that I benefited from a racist land grant after hitching a covered wagon with oxen and traveled the Oregon Trail, I just keep walking and do not stare. Now explain what you meant. Because the states of Oregon, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming and Washington were created by government policy and everything in them today are a result. For years blacks had nothing coming in these states and even now they are white supremacist havens. So how can anyone white deny that such policy has benefitted them today? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 12:37:16 GMT
It's funny how people can selectively determine which parts of the past were beneficial. Look this up and read it please. You will have to download the pdf file. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-building Policy in American History by Trina Williams You are still going to have to show how these racist policies of the past made me privileged enough to grow up in a majority black neighborhood. Stop being obtuse. Whites as a race have benefitted from these policies. Of course when I say such things in places like this, I get the silly individualism dodge and everybody white is either poor, a descendant of immigrants who never owned slaves, or they are the one white person who grew up in a black neighorhood where everybody black picked on them and were racists.. Sorry, but this is a macro level discussion, so the micro level argument of me, my and I have no merit. Whites have 15 times the wealth of blacks for a reason and dodging the issue with I am an individual does nothing but continue allowing this to be. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 13:07:55 GMT
You are going to have to quote that statement. I made a reference to the Oregon Trail. Your comrade said it was a game and I said it was a game based on real history. For some reason that triggered you. If someone tells me that I benefited from a racist land grant after hitching a covered wagon with oxen and traveled the Oregon Trail, I just keep walking and do not stare. Now explain what you meant. Because the states of Oregon, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming and Washington were created by government policy and everything in them today are a result. For years blacks had nothing coming in these states and even now they are white supremacist havens. So how can anyone white deny that such policy has benefitted them today? If I actually lived in one of those states or knowingly had ancestry from those states, I might be able to personalize this. Seeing that I live in the East on land that was available to everyone which can be visually observed by my many black neighbors, I cannot say that I benefited from those land grants. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 13:12:05 GMT
You are going to have to quote that statement. I made a reference to the Oregon Trail. Your comrade said it was a game and I said it was a game based on real history. For some reason that triggered you. “Comrade?” WTH does that mean? Definition of comrade 1a : an intimate friend or associate : COMPANION " … reflecting upon all my comrades that were drowned … " — Daniel Defoe b : a fellow soldier comrades in battle 2 [from its use as a form of address by communists] : COMMUNIST |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 13:17:56 GMT
You are still going to have to show how these racist policies of the past made me privileged enough to grow up in a majority black neighborhood. Stop being obtuse. Whites as a race have benefitted from these policies. Of course when I say such things in places like this, I get the silly individualism dodge and everybody white is either poor, a descendant of immigrants who never owned slaves, or they are the one white person who grew up in a black neighorhood where everybody black picked on them and were racists.. Sorry, but this is a macro level discussion, so the micro level argument of me, my and I have no merit. Whites have 15 times the wealth of blacks for a reason and dodging the issue with I am an individual does nothing but continue allowing this to be. I don’t deny that racist handouts have been issued in the past. I do not believe that I ever received anything from the government that was exclusively for whites only. I did grow up in a neighborhood with a large black population. The white kids did most of the bullying though. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 13:31:13 GMT
Definition of comrade 1a : an intimate friend or associate : COMPANION " … reflecting upon all my comrades that were drowned … " — Daniel Defoe b : a fellow soldier comrades in battle 2 [from its use as a form of address by communists] : COMMUNIST You were inferring that im2 and I are Communists because we are LIBERAL No. I was inferring that you were intimate friends. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 13:32:50 GMT
Definition of comrade 1a : an intimate friend or associate : COMPANION " … reflecting upon all my comrades that were drowned … " — Daniel Defoe b : a fellow soldier comrades in battle 2 [from its use as a form of address by communists] : COMMUNIST You were inferring that im2 and I are Communists because we are LIBERAL You asked for a definition of comrade. IE; "WTH does that mean". That's the definition of 'comrade'. |
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